HOW CAN A LOVING GOD SEND PEOPLE TO HELL?

 

 

I have one question why god is worthy of worship  and   going through your book as well and  this question is kind of related to the  concept of my sotheism or  people who are atheists but they're  intellectually convinced of islam that's  not the problem it's just the  emotional issues and this particular  question it's not the problem of evil  and  this person understands why eternal hell  is just  but the contention that this person has  is just the volume of humans that are  going to hell fire  and he cites the hadith that  out  of   humans are going to hell  he's read the rest of the hadith he  knows about yahuja but he says you know  they're still human so  why what god created like  humans with  the test so difficult that     go to hell uh potentially forever  and  you know this person does seem sincere  to me i think it's just this contention  is kind of the barrier to them  like i think the question the way they  put it was how do i love a god who's  going to send  the overwhelming majority of humans to  hell forever  yeah well this is a very good question  and this is not  an abnormal question this is sometimes a  natural question of someone who has  a kind of empathic disposition so when  you're talking to someone like that  you need to empower them and say this is  this is actually could be a good sign as  well  but usually we should take those  psychological energies and it should  you know for the people involved in dawa  we use that energy to  actually get people more out of hell and  into heaven and that's the whole point  so we get  we were motivated and we're driven that  way to help humanity  because the prophet sallallahu alaihi  wasallam said love for humanity we love  yourself it's a hadith narrated by  bukhari in tariq al-qibir  hadith love for lin-ness love for  humanity we love yourself and  from the perspective of non-muslims this  means that we're committed to their  guidance and were committed  to their goodness and this echoes what  now we said about a similar theme and  even  the maliki scholar as well he says  something similar  so i would start with that to try and  empower them but also say to them look  you misunderstood something concerning  allah  does allah want people to go to hell  abdullah no no he gets nothing out of  that  good and allah says that in the quran he  says he doesn't prefer disbelief for his  servants  or the other way around basically the  mufasareen they say this means allah  doesn't want  people to go to hell but people go to  hell right  so when allah says allah does not guide  so and so allah would punish so and so  what does this mean what are the  spiritual asparable  the spiritual causes that enable that to  happen is it because god wants them to  go to hell  or is it because the person themselves  they have thrown  themselves into hell because allah  subhanahu wa to allah says  don't blame me blame your own hands it's  what your hands have earned  so basically they have basically  literally thrown themselves into the  hellfire because the doors of mercenary  repentance were always open  they consciously decided to close those  doors or not even  bother look at the door not even bother  walk through that door  so a light is giving them what they  actually want  so it's not the question of how can a  loving god send people to hell that's  the wrong question it assumes the wrong  philosophy  it's how can we choose hell  over a loving lord now one would argue  why can't he just make them all go to  heaven  well that would that would mean that  there's absolutely no moral meaning  behind this  at all if i put a gun to your head and i  said give sadaqah  your sadhaka has no moral meaning  so from that perspective it's not as  simple as you know allah wants them to  go to hell and he's throwing them into  hell  in that kind of fashion it is more  deeper than that when you analyze the  quran holistically  there are spiritual causes for these  things allah has kept the door open of  mercy and repentance  the person consciously has to understand  that door is open but close it  themselves  and then allah may reopen it for them  kind of thing but they close it again  and then eventually allah will give them  what they want so  so it's like it's the same thing with  the ayah when allah has put a  a seed on their hearts now did they have  that seed on their hearts in the  beginning  what does that mean if you look at the  quran holistically in an intertextual  way you will see  that actually say the heart is here okay  so this tissue is the heart  so what they've done they've sinned and  they they don't want they want to close  off the light of guidance so the finger  goes over it  and then they continue to close the  light of guidance and then they get  another chance and they continue to  close the light of guidance  and they get another chance and they  continue to close the light of guidance  and then they close the whole fists and  then after allah slams it shot  because allah has given them what they  wanted so  it's so it's i actually got this from    misery you know may allah bless him it  was a beautiful example  and it was very powerful because and  that's why you know  but in essence allah is giving you what  you want man  um and that's the beauty and that's the  massive responsibility of free will that  we have the  conscious choice to to actually make  that choice to embrace the mercy and  forgiveness of allah to go through that  door of mercy and forgiveness  or to run away and you have to  understand allah  is more merciful than anyone you can  imagine anything that you can imagine  allah is  one of the famous scholars of islam said  if i had to choose between  allah and my mother to judge me on the  day of judgment  i would choose allah subhanahu wa with  her because they knew who  law was they understood his names and  attributes  look how the mother's mercy is one of  the greatest mercies but they knew  that i rather want allah to judge me in  the day of judgment  rather than my own mother so it's all  about perspective so hopefully  some of the few things that i've  mentioned actually puts this into  perspective from a theological  perspective  does that make sense bro yeah i think  that's a  that's a good way to approach it the way  i tried to answer it was just by saying  you know allah's not asked about what he  does whereas about what we do but maybe  the way  you approach this yeah that's a good one  as well  so with regards to this idea so  the numbers end up becoming quite  irrelevant in the end it's like whether  it was one  two five hundred a thousand a million a  billion  the question is is is if  is allah subhanahu wa tala just and if  they do go to hell  did they deserve it so if you know these  conditions  if it is the case that allah is just and  it is the case that they've been sent to  hell then it follows from that that they  must have deserved it  and so you know the numbers themselves  are  are pointless um it's it's the question  of whether or not  a just god has put them in there for  justified reasons is the main thing and  you know within our paradigm  it god is just and so whoever he's  throwing in hell he has a good reason to  do so  um obviously you can get into arguments  adam fitnam  um about like how do we conceive that  exactly like  what elements what layers is he um  using to to sort of justify that that  move or that action  um but you know you can like say go on  about that forever  it's a bit closer  so yeah so that's that's an awesome and  the reason being is people don't study  theology or they take one verse  because the quran you need to approach  the quran like ibn kether approached the  quran really in reality  ibrahim is tough in what you call an  intertextual tafsir  so we'll take an ayah whether it's  specific or ambiguous he'll link it to  all of the other ayats that link to the  same topic and then you get the full  picture of what allah is saying in the  quran  and that and that's why when i got the  understanding of you know  when allah puts a stamp on their hearts  what does that mean  so the explanation was given there are  spiritual asbab for why that's the case  you know the person continues to be  adamant to close their hearts  away from guidance and mercy to the  point that it's shot then allah closes  it and gives it gives them what they  actually were desiring  and what they were intending in the  first place anyway yeah so that so when  you look at the quran from that  perspective wallahi  it's like four dimensional and it will  always give you the right answers  and that's why you have to study the  quran this ramadan brothers and sisters  don't  only recite the quran yes allah loves  those who recite the quran you're  glorifying allah you get reward from the  mary recitation  but remember this when the hadith  were talking about people reciting the  quran they were talking to people who  already knew arabic and they could  understand  at least the basic meaning of the quran  let's revive that context  and at least do that of the book of  allah subhana wa to allah  don't just recite it i'm telling you i i  i followed the kind of position that  it's better to recite the quran and do  tata and  know its meanings because allah the  intention of the book it's to be  understood and free to guide your life  do both as best as you can and allah  says on the quran do not do they not  ponder over the quran or their locks on  their hearts  this could mean the more you ponder the  more your heart becomes  unlocked to receive the mercy and  guidance of allah  so please ponder on the quran and you  get these answers for yourself  and you know and even in my own journey  you know i first started by just  emulating christian philosophers  and over time when you're learning  developed and you hopefully go  a bit more closer to the quran all the  answers are in the quran  that's why i wanted to revive a topic  called the quranic argument for god's  existence  and i've been trying to do that for  years so people understand that you  the best arguments come from the quran  not only do they come from the quran but  they are universal arguments as well at  the same time  and there's a there's a huge spiritual  power in doing this  because what happens is you link your  rational arguments to the tradition so  they don't go elsewhere you don't give  them a spiritual vacuum  right you know we're not what mean and  that's why i'm a bit upset with the  da'wah lately because all it is is about  god's existence  well now how many talks do you have  while i is worthy of worship  i get so confused no one talks about  this it's the most important part of our  deen and hardly anyone  talks about this topic yeah we talk  about the religion as if we're just  philosophers yeah  like and that's why in sapiens institute  we are reviving a proper way of giving  doubt in my view  would you respect this is a proper way  and i'm not gonna you know i'm  this is the problem the other way is not  nuanced enough i'm sorry it's a  disservice to our tradition  well light is a disservice if you don't  talk to people while it's worthy of  worship when you're talking about god's  existence there is something wrong with  your doubt  i'm not saying it's bad i'm not saying  you shouldn't do it but it's incomplete  incomplete it's incomplete when we did  the divine reality course in most of the  arguments we talked about god's  existence we  always ended it with why allah is worthy  of worship how do you link the fact that  allah is worthy of our love  to be known to be obeyed and to direct  all acts of worship to him alone  how do you link that to the argument if  you don't do that and this is why our  ummah is in a bit of a crisis because  we're just  he's like we just i see some people on  twitter yeah philosopher types reading  this reading that  and i studied philosophy these guys are  self-read i'm thinking if you go deeper  you get even more confused you don't  know what you're talking about you sound  clever  well brothers and sisters and this is a  message to everybody  our job is not to do things that sound  clever or sound right is to do things  that are in line with what allah wants  and i am a true believer  and look at my own journey you know i  was like the kind of you know  you know philosophical rationalist type  that hardly linked it to the dean  but when i in the process of writing my  book in chapter  it totally changed me  because when you understand why allah is  worthy of worship you want to link  everything to that and you can link  everything to that and we must  what does allah say we didn't send the  nbr except to say what la ilaha  there is no dating where they worship  except allah  and we have to do this brothers and  sisters otherwise what are we doing  we're not doing the tao of the anbiya  don't get me wrong yes use philosophical  arguments that are in line with the  quran and sunnah no problem  yes give dawah of course yes talk about  god's existence i'm all for that my  book's all about that  but do not be incomplete in your tower  perfect your tower by linking your  arguments to the fact why allah must be  loved  why he must be known why he must be  obeyed and why he must  we must single out and direct all of our  internal and external acts of worship to  allah alone  the reason i'm passionate about this is  because we need to revive this in the  dao if you type in why allah is worthy  of worship on in google  tell me what comes up  is not collective it hasn't come  together enough to revive the most  important dollar methodology which is  talking to people about  why allah needs to be glorified and  you know why because we have a subtle  inferiority complex  we have a saturn verity complex you know  sometimes when i get asked at  universities give a talk on god's  existence and say no i'm going to talk  about why life is worth your worship  because i would even argue you know when  you talk about those existence anymore  because if you could show them  existentially that you're worshiping  something anyway even if you don't  believe in god  they start to think about okay who is  the thing what is the thing that  deserves worship  because allah says in chapter  verse   i'm paraphrasing  consider the situation of two people one  man is a slave to many masters and  all quarrelling and one man is a master  is a servant to one  whose condition is best from a tadabada  point of view  man cannot not worship martin ling said  this very powerful word  everyone is a state of worship because  if you love something the most at any  point in your life  if you obey something the most at any  point in your life if you want to know  something the most at any point in your  life if you want to  express acts of worship like gratitude  to something that most  uh in any point of your life that's your  object of worship whether you're an  atheist  theist nihilist realist anti-realist  whoever you are  if if you wanted to love something the  most know something the most obey  something the most and direct ultimate  gratitude towards something the most  which we all do that's your object of worship you're  enslaved to that thing  so the question that lord well sorry  everybody  finished that's why we have to teach  people why allah is worthy of worship  when they know allah  these atheists they won't need a  philosophical argument they may do but  this would be enough for them as well we  have to revive this stuff because part  of our deen  and it's the most powerful thing and  when people come to islam through  abstract reasoning  very rarely do they really hold on to  islam in a heart in  a very good way they they evolve into  understanding why life is worthy of  worship we have to combine both  approaches  and insha allah for the right but it's  so important and this is what sapience  institute is trying to do  link it to our tradition keep the strong  philosophical arguments but also link  to our traditions on that note thank you  so much  for that beautiful explanation as to why  we need to learn why we need to worship  allah so brother sisters uh just to  summarize  what we've been doing so far  alhamdulillah the response has been  amazing  we really want brothers and sisters to  wake up wherever you are australia  canada  us singapore indonesia we have audience  all over the world  please share the link on your social  media platforms and start making  donations  this is the purpose tonight to raise  funds to continue this work  this beautiful work sapient institute is  doing it's a  niche organization that has a very  specific goal and the goal is  to uh defend the intellectual boundaries  of islam  to teach the muslims how they can give  dawah  intellectually okay how they can  convince the masses that islam is the  truth  intellectually and 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